help with cooking problem please August 18 2003
I am wanting to try this "sauce" for a third time. I am sort of in a hurry as my window of opportunity is running out. My husband wants to be able to have the windows of the house open if I make this. He says it stinks up the house. I don't remember it smelling that bad. It takes 14 days to make this and I need to have it done before the cool weather of fall (autumn) hits (and I have to close the windows).
The "sauce" is called, "Napoleon's Camp Sauce". It is from the book, "Moore's Universal Assistant", copyright in 1879. (I think this recipe makes some something like a "Worchester" sauce.)
Napoleon's Camp Sauce Old strong beer, 2 qts., white wine, 1 qt., anchovies, 4 ounces; mix; boil for ten minutes; remove it from the fire, and add peeled shallots, 3 ounces; macerate for 14 days, and bottle.
The recipe says to "macerate" the mixture for 14 days. I just do not know a proper way to "macerate" this. Most definitions of "macerate" say that it is to "soften and separate by soaking" or "to grow or make lean". They also talk about soaking fruit in wine or liquor as macerating.
The only thing is, I tried setting the bowl of cooked mixture in the cool basement in a stainless bowl covered with a cloth. I kept it there around 14 days. (Maybe I did not get that far.) The liquid ended up with a thick dense mold which floated on top. My husband's late grandmother gave me the idea to put it in the basement covered with a cloth. I think I may have used a damp cloth.
The next time I tried this recipe, I put it in the refrigerator. (Probably? covered in plastic wrap.) It ended up with a thick dense mold on it again. (don't know if it was the same type of mold as the one before) My father in law brought to my attention that some recipes are meant to ferment or get a mold on them. He wondered if maybe this "sauce" was supposed to get the mold on it for it to "do". My husband and I were afraid to try it after it go the mold on it. We did not know if that was a good mold or a bad one.
My husband wants me to find out more about "macerating" this recipe before I try it again. I would like to try making this again. Some how I have this idea of people "in the olden days" cooking "something" in a pot for many days over a low fire. Don't know where I got the idea from---(maybe watching "westerns" on television?).
I looked up "macerate" again online. I found a definition from 1913 that says, "3. To soften by steeping in a liquid, with or without heat; to wear away or separate the parts of by steeping; as, to macerate animal or vegetable fiber." http://machaut.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/WEBSTER.sh?WORD=Macerate This would indicate that I could put this recipe on to slow cook for the 14 days and "macerate" it that way. This time I wanted to try it in a "crock pot" (electric slow cooker) on low for 14 days.
Does anyone have any idea how I could go about properly "macerating" this recipe? Any ideas on how I can find out if it is supposed to ferment or get a mold on it? I looked up "Napoleon's Camp Sauce" in google and found nothing. Any help in this matter will be appreciated!!!!
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Reply to my post: I got a reply from a chef in Panama to this post.
help with cooking problem please comments January 21 2004
Hi there! would like to know what happened to your Napoleonīs camp sauce? did you finally find a way to -macerate- it? I have some ideas for you IF you are still interested. Please e-mail me directly and I will be happy to help you. Happy New Year!
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Robyn:
Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:40 PM
Hello,
This is Robyn S. My blog is "whatdougalldoes". Happy New Year to you as
well.
I am not sure how you found the post on my blog. I know my blog is available for
anyone to read it. I am still getting used to "strangers" posting replies to
what I write. It is amazing how all of this "computer stuff" works.
I asked some questions about "macerating" at one of the "Epicurious" forums. The
conversation quickly turned to soup and broth. I learned some things I might do
to make the, Napoleon's Camp Sauce. I did not learn anything definite. No one
was sure what to do to make it. Most people are like, "Why would you want to
make that?".
I would enjoy learning anything you know about "macerating" this sauce.
This "sauce", is one of those things that "sounds", horrible, but if you taste
the unfinished product, it is not too bad.
I did not try making this recipe during the past summer. I started thinking
about it too late. Maybe I can be prepared for next year.
I always thought, that if this turned out well enough I could bottle it and give
it out as Christmas presents.
I was looking at your web site. I see you were a pastry chef. That sounds like a
fun job. I always crave things like cake and pastries. Tried to make some
cookies for Christmas. They were so thick we nearly burned out the motor on the
hand mixer. They make good cookies, but we need to cut the recipe down even
further next time.
It must be nice in Panama right now. I live in Michigan.
We have snow on
the ground now. I have quite a collection of cookbooks. I don't seem to do much
cooking though. It is just fun to read how people lived and did things long ago.
One book is from Brazil. The recipes are in both Brazilian Portuguese and
English. The recipes calling for native fruits and fish are very strange to us
here. We have never heard of some of the fruit or fish. That book, is from the
1950's. Some of the books have "house hold hints" in them. Those are always fun
to read.
I should let you go. Thanks for responding to my post. Sorry I haven't written
sooner.
Robyn in frozen Michigan
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Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:11 PM
Robyn:
Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:37 PM
Thanks for the
reply. I will try this again sometime and use your suggestion. It is really good
to learn something new.
I like watching chefs on television sometimes. There was a program on our cable,
"Great Chefs of the World".
I like eating duck too, but the recipe you sent was a little strange. Each
culture has food that is "strange" to another culture. I have a friend in China
who doesn't know cheese. (They don't eat cheese in China.)
Thanks again. Robyn
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Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:37 PM
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contacting http://Panama-Gourmet.com! We
will respond as soon as we can! For last minute requests please contact Chef M.
by telephone (507) ***-****
*****Gracias por contactar
http://Panama-Gourmet.com! Le responderemos en la brevedad posible. Para
solicitudes de ultimo momento, favor contactar a la Chef M. via telefōnica al
(507) ***-****