Healthy Foods and Such
        
        As you can tell this 
        is a pet subject of mine.  If things seem convoluted here or there, 
        don’t worry.  There is a madness to my method.  Don’t for a minute think 
        that Douglas or I believe 100% of everything on these websites.  That 
        just ain’t available!!  I make no guarantees about the information on 
        these sites.  I am on a mailing list dealing with short-wave, 
        listening.  As someone on the list reminds us, “Your mileage may vary”.
        
         
        
        I hope all of these 
        links are still working when I actually get this up on the net.  They 
        work as I am writing this in the Spring and Summer of 2002.  
        Actually no.  It is now, March 2004 and a lot of these links are 
        broken.  I am either fixing them or telling you which ones don't 
        work.  The information might still be, "out there somewhere".  
        You can try to search for it. (I am only leaving the better broken ones 
        on here.) If they 
        don’t work for you, use a search engine such as “Google” 
        (www.google.com) 
        to try to find the article or website that way. “Google” has a “cache” 
        that stores old articles and such; you might find it there.  I would not 
        let
        
        me (Robyn) know about the glitches, as I might not be able to “fix” 
        anything once I get this stuck on the web. That is, UNLESS you can also 
        help me fix the problem/s.  Then by all means, let me know what is not 
        working. I am learning to do this as I go along.
        
         
        
        Good nutrition, not 
        the “junk” that is normally promoted.
        
        I have listed here 
        the best websites dealing with good nutrition.  This is information that 
        you most likely won’t hear on television or radio.  That is, unless you 
        have a short-wave radio, or listen to Internet radio.
        
         
        
        I got my “start” in 
        this “branch” of the nutrition “interest” when I heard,
        Dr. Mary Enig on the radio program,
        
        Radio Free America.    
        
         
        
        For supplements and 
        health information get the free catalogue from
        
        Carotec at
        
        http://www.carotec.com/ .   This catalogue is very informative.  So 
        much so, that people use it in home schooling.
        
         
        
        For general 
        nutrition go to the
        
        Weston A. Price Foundation at 
        
        http://westonaprice.org/ This is nutrition information that 
        “Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats”.
        
         
        
        
        
        Healthy Traditions Network is the Detroit Chapter of the Weston A. 
        Price Foundation. 
        
        http://www.htnetwork.org/ You can find your local chapter by 
        visiting the website listed above this one.
        
         
        
        This 
        is the web site for the
        
        Price- Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. 
        
        
        http://www.price-pottenger.org/ Of course this is very good 
        information also.
        
         
        
        
        http://www.soilandhealth.org/index.html Soil and Health Library 
        Australia  At the time I write this, this site has online for free, 
        Dr. Price's books as well as books by other wonderful authors.  
        This site looks to have wonderful stuff on it otherwise as well!
        
         
        
        Here we have the
        Transfat info. website.  
        
        http://www.enig.com/  
        This is Dr. Mary Enig’s website.  
        This is an excellent source of information about healthy fats.  Yes! Fat 
        can be good for you!!
        
         
        
        
        http://www.nutritionhealth.org/ THE McCARRISON SOCIETY
        FOR NUTRITION AND HEALTH 
        
         
        
        
        http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/McCarrison/mcchome.html
        McCarrison 
        Society for Nutrition and Health Scottish Group
        
         
        
        Speaking of fats, did you know that it is not necessarily, “cholesterol” 
        that causes heart disease?  You can learn more about the “Cholesterol 
        Myths” here.  
        
        
        http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm   Cholesterol, is what the 
        body produces when it is trying to repair itself.  It is best to figure 
        out what is causing the body to repair itself in the first 
        place---RATHER than just try to lower the cholesterol.  If you are just 
        lowering cholesterol, then you are treating a symptom and not the 
        disease.  I have always thought it was best to treat the disease and not 
        just the symptoms.  It does not seem a good idea to me, to take 
        cholesterol, lowering drugs and not get rid of the reason the body is 
        producing cholesterol.  The cause for the problem is still there. 
        
        
         
        
         The 
        Health Benefits of Real Milk
        The Why’s and How’s 
        of
        Real Milk
        http://www.realmilk.com/
         
         
        
        Another good website 
        dealing with the benefits of 
        Raw Milk. 
        
        http://www.rawmilk.org/
        
         
        
        
        
        http://www.magma.ca/~ca/rawmilk/index.htm
        (www.NaturalMilk.com) Formerly 
        www.rawmilk.com.  Canadian web site.
        
         
        
        This is a great 
        website if you want to learn about health and such.  They have some 
        informative articles about Pasteur and his rival Antoine Bechamp.  The 
        main website is called,
        Sumeria. This is a link to their 
        
        health section. 
        
        http://www.sumeria.net/health.htm 
        
        The history of 
        Pasteur and Bechamp is crucial to understanding WHY they Pasteurize milk 
        today.  You can also learn, “Why 
        PETA’s MilkSucks.com Sucks”.  I am not sure I believe 100% of 
        everything on this website.  It is food for thought though.  
        
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html Reply To Robert Cohen, 
        The Not Milk Man  By Andreas Schuld.  
        
         
        
        In the U.K., and 
        some other European countries, it is legal to sell unpasteurised (with 
        an “S”) milk. Hopefully these articles will still work.  If not, go to 
        “google” (www.google.com) 
        type in “unpasteurised milk” (with an “S” and not a “Z”).  That is how I 
        found these.  Or you can look up the organizations and do a search on 
        their websites.  (Nov. 2003--At least it was legal when I 
        originally wrote this.  No telling what that durned ol' E.U. are up 
        to now.  E.U. = European Union.)
        
         
        
        This one is from the 
        U.K.’s
        
        Soil Association
        
        http://www.soilassociation.org/sa/saweb.nsf/index.html
        
        This is their 
        organic farming and foods website.  It should be pretty good.
        
         
        
        Here are two 
        articles from the Food Standards Agency.  This is an agency of the 
        British government.  These two don't work anymore, but I left them 
        on here so you could search for them if you wanted to.
        
        
        
        1.
        
        http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/foodadvice/milk/
        
        
        
        2.http://www.food.gov.uk/foodindustry/ 
        Consultations/consultwales/rawmilkcream
        
         
        
        Here WAS one article 
        about the traditional British “pinta” 
        or “pint of” milk. It is no longer working.  I keep it here so you 
        can search for more information about the contents.  In this article, you can learn about the British, 
        “Unpasteurised Milk Producers’ Association”.  I could not find a website 
        for them.  Their head is, campaigner Sir Julian Rose.
        
        http://www.sustainweb.org/foodfact/pinta.htm  It is from
        
        Sustain the alliance for better food and farming.  website.
        
        http://www.sustainweb.org/ 
        
         
        
        
        
        http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/articles/index_dairy.shtml Green Top 
        or Raw Dairy Articles (page of links) At Seeds of Health
        
         
        
        This
        
        article was from the BFA,
        Biological Farmers of Australia Ltd.   It 
        isn't there now, but the BFA is still there.  You can see what the 
        BFA has to offer.
        
        
        
        http://www.bfa.com.au/news/articles/2001_ winter_milkunpasturised.htm
        
        Another reason not to use no stick 
        cookware 
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3441255.stm 
        Frying pan fumes 'kill canaries'
        
 
        
        Soy Not Fit for Animals or Humans
        
        There is a big 
        debate on the Internet in the “Alternative Medicine” field.  The debate 
        is over “Soy”.  I happen to believe that soy is good for industrial 
        purposes.  They make good plastic out of it.  But I really don’t like to 
        eat it.  This comes from my own experience of eating soy. As a vegan 
        teenager, I ate the beans cooked in pressure cookers.  I ate many a 
        “beans and tortilla” meal.  I still “crave” the taste of a good fried 
        tofu and mayo sandwich.  (Of course a fried egg sandwich is much better 
        for me and takes care of that craving!!)  As a baby I was fed the 
        “dreaded” soy formula.  I had no choice in either case.  You eat what is 
        available.  Looking back, I can see that I had difficulty eating soy.  
        When I “got grown” and I ate tofu as a treat item—I finally woke up and 
        realized that I cannot eat soy.  And it dawned on me why I had some of 
        the difficulties I had as a child.  For instance, soy is known to be 
        difficult to digest.  It is the most flatulence-causing bean in the 
        world.  I was fed soy formula because I had a cow’s milk allergy.  I was 
        adopted, so breastfeeding was not an option.  My mother describes me as 
        a baby, as not wanting to be held.  I cried and cried all the time.  She 
        could not hold me, and it got so bad they had to prop the bottle up and 
        allow me to feed that way.  Could I have had terrible gas from the soy?  
        Only God knows the answer to that.  But the soy could have been one 
        reason why I cried and did not want to be held.  
        
         
        
        I am sort of 
        anti-vegetarianism / veganism also.  The pro-soy, vegetarian / vegan 
        people, believe that the
        
        Soy Online Service and the
        
        Weston A. Price Foundation have an agenda.  It is as if they believe 
        that these groups are in league with milk producers and cattle raisers. 
        
        
         
        
        Where I seem to run 
        across information about a “conspiracy” coming from the “soy” industry.  
        The vegetarian / vegan community seem to see a “conspiracy” coming from 
        the cattle / milk industry.   
        
         
        
        Of course you can 
        tell that my opinion of soy is “slanted” a certain way.  But there is 
        “scientific” evidence that helped my opinion “slant” in the direction it 
        went.  The web sites below are where I get my “soy ammunition”.  
        
        
         
        
        You can still get the “Soy 
        Report” from
        
        Carotec? at
        
        http://www.carotec.com/  I am not sure if it is still 
        available.  
        
         
        
        All you ever want to 
        know about soy is from a website in New Zealand. 
        
        Soy Online Service.
        
        www.soyonlineservice.co.nz 
         
        
        Articles about 
        soy from the
        
        Weston A. Price Foundation website.  These all work unless 
        otherwise noted.
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_soy.html
         
        
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/darkside.html   
        
        
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/complaints.html
         
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/ploy.html
         
        
        
        
        www.westonaprice.org/soy_alert.htm (not working) 
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_update2001.html
        Works!
        
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html
         
        
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/isoflavones.html
         
        
         
        
         
        
        Here is an article 
        about how
        
        Soy is the “Sacred Cow”
        
        http://www.jacktips.com/soysacredcow.htm It is from
        
        Apple-A-Day Service Group.  In the article, you learn the “pros.” 
        and “cons.” about soy so you can make up your own mind.  It is a really 
        good article!!
        
         
        
        Here is a list of 
        various links with all sorts of information about the
        
        dangers of soy.
        
        http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/   
        
        
        http://www.mercola.com/2000/jan/9/truth_about_soy.htm Learn The 
        Truth About The Historical Use Of Soy 
        
        There is an interesting article at
        
        http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1594/4_13/90191352/p1/article.jhtml 
        can't guarantee that it will remain there.  You can look it up at 
        the library or online if you can't find it here. Don't know if I agree 
        with this article 100% since I have not read 100% of it.  The 
        title, magazine and author are: Sorting out soy: the growing confusion 
        about eating soy foods. (Eating Right). E: The Environmental Magazine, 
        July-August, 2002, by Anne W. DiNardo   Right now this article 
        is also at:
        
        http://www.emagazine.com/july-august_2002/0702gl_eating.html
         
        
         
        Other Sites of Interest 
        
        
        
        Association of American Physicians and Surgeons Inc.
        
        http://www.aapsonline.org/ "Association of American Physicians and 
        Surgeons, Inc. A Voice for Private Physicians Since 1943" This is a very 
        interesting website.  It is really for doctors, but anyone can 
        learn things here.
        
        Here is yet another 
        excellent and interesting website. 
        
        The Oregon Institute for Science and Medicine. 
        
        http://www.oism.org/ 
        
        
        http://www.sma.org/ Southern 
        Medical Association
        
        
        http://www.ahcj.umn.edu/
        Association of Health Care Journalists
        
        
        http://www.ahcj.umn.edu/qualityguide/chapter9.html#keyfacts
        Covering the Quality of Health Care: A Resource Guide for 
        Journalists--Complementary and Alternative Medicine, Measuring Quality 
        on the Fringes of Health care--Why it matters: Consumers are confused
        
        
        http://www.supplementwatch.com/ 
        Supplement Watch.com  Supplement Decisions Made Easy
        
        
        http://www.medicalconsumers.org/index.html 
        Center for Medical Consumers This is a web site for New Yorkers. 
        But it has wonderful information on it.
 
        
        If you are 
        interested in learning about the dreaded “C” word, cancer, then here is 
        a good web site by
        
        Dr. Moss. 
        
        http://www.cancerdecisions.com/   He seems to be “pro-soy”, but the 
        things on his web site seem interesting none the less. I heard about him 
        on a radio program but I did not hear the program clearly, because I had 
        the computer on.  What intrigued me, was the fact that in the early 
        1980’s he wrote a book about “The 
        Cancer Industry”.  It is a very scary subject.  The drug companies, 
        and the “cancer industry” want a monopoly on treatments.  It is not a 
        good thing at all.  You can read what the “other half” believes about 
        Dr. Moss by reading this review of his books at
        
        Quackwatch.com.  You can read
        
        Dr. Moss’ book  yourself at
        
        http://www.ralphmoss.com/cain.html   If you want to learn more about
        
        the books go to
        
        http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/books.shtml 
        
         
        
        If you are 
        interested in Farming go to
        
        Acres U.S.A. 
        
        http://acresusa.com/  I think it may be good for gardeners also.  It 
        is definitely good for consumers who want to learn what is going on with 
        our food supply.
        
        
        http://www.beyondveg.com/  Here is a site about the TRUE 
        science of "alternative diets", such as Vegetarianism, Fruitarian, Raw 
        Foods etc.
        
         
        
        I 
        heard this
        seed company advertised over the radio.  It looks like a good 
        company.  Have not done business with them yet.  (May 2002) 
        
        http://www.organicseed.com/
         
        
         
        
        I have seen ads for 
        a company “Seeds of Change” in British magazines.  They sell organic 
        seeds, and organic processed foods.  I found a few websites for them on 
        “Google”.  This company seems like a very commercial, growing company.  
        Just because the products are “organic” that does not make them 100% 
        good.  An, organic ketchup for example, may seem better.  But if it has 
        the same amount of sugar and has had all the nutrients processed out of 
        it, is it really “better”?  
        
        This one may be the
        company’s main web site.  
        
        
        http://www.masterfoodservices.com/MasterFoodServices/ 
        
        This one is their
        main site as far as buying things. http://www.seedsofchange.com/ 
        
        Just so you can see 
        the different products they offer around the world, here are some of 
        their other web sites.  I don’t know if they have any other ones. 
        
        
        This is
        
        the British one. 
        
        http://www.seedsofchange.co.uk/start.htm
        
        Here is their
        
        website for Australia.  
        
        
        
        http://www.seedsofchange.com.au/
        
        This
        
        one is for Denmark. 
        
        http://www.seedsofchange.dk/ 
        
         
        
        
        The Organic Consumers Association   http://organicconsumers.org/
        
        
         
        
        Another interesting 
        farming web site, is
        
        Agriculture Network Information Center at
        
        http://www.agnic.org/  
        
        http://laurel.nal.usda.gov:8080/agnic/
         
        
         
        
        This web site is 
        also interesting.  
        
        The Community Food Security Coalition which is at 
        
        http://www.foodsecurity.org/
        
         
        
        Here is a website of 
        the British (U.K.) Government.  It is similar to the U.S. Food and Drug 
        Administration.  It is their
        
        Food Standards Agency. 
        
        http://www.foodstandards.gov.uk/   This is a very informative site 
        even though it is “mainstream”.  Don’t know if they are as influenced by 
        food companies, as our FDA is influenced by drug and food companies.  I 
        know they are heavily influenced by the European Union.  I just learned 
        about “E numbers”.  Each food additive used in the European Union (E.U.) 
        gets a number.  You can look up “E numbers” on this site and learn more 
        about different ones.  Just type in “E numbers” in quotes into their 
        search engine.  Now remember, there are different laws between the E.U./ 
        U.K. and the U.S.  We allow some things they don’t and they allow some 
        items we don’t.  The amounts of a substance found in our food maybe 
        different too.  Douglas and I are very wary of foods that require a PHD 
        in chemistry in order to read the ingredients label on a food package.  
        It is not that we don’t trust “chemicals” in the foods; table salt is 
        “sodium chloride”, it is just that we like to know what we are eating.  
        If we can’t pronounce it then odds are we won’t know what the item is. 
        
        
        In Europe there is 
        the “Slow 
        Foods Movement”.  It started in Italy as a way to simply “enjoy” 
        food.  A large part of the concept is the act of taking time and 
        enjoying a meal.  Enjoying food is a novel concept for some people.  
        They are too busy watching the fat contents, calories and cholesterol of 
        each bite they eat.  I say, “If you don’t enjoy it, why eat it”!  I grew 
        up in a “culture” where a meal could take a while. When I lived with my 
        grandparents, even the noon meal of “leftovers” or “beans and cornbread” 
        type foods, was not really a “fast” meal.  The only reason we were 
        “hurried along” by my grandmother, was because I had to be back to high 
        school on time. 
        http://www.slowfood.com/  
        This concept might not be 100% healthy according to the websites at the 
        top.  They do stress eating real food, which is cooked, not microwaved.  
        “Slow Foods” seems like a good idea to me.  The whole concept of the 
        enjoyment of preparing the food, and then having a nice meal with 
        friends or family is very good.  I wish we could slow the whole world 
        down so that everyone could enjoy their food more often.  Eating a meal 
        together is a Godly principle from the Bible.  I have learned a lot of 
        great things from conversations I have had while eating.  They have done 
        studies and eating one meal together on a regular basis is good for 
        families and kids.  
        
         
        
        Not only is there a, 
        “Campaign 
        for Real Milk”; and a “Campaign 
        for Real Ale”; there is now a “Campaign 
        for Real Food”. 
        
        http://www.thecarf.co.uk/ 
        
         
        
        
        http://www.agsites.net/
        Agriculture and Outdoor World Link Directory--The largest 
        agriculture and outdoor world website directory
        
         
        
        Here are two good 
        web sites for “people of size”.  The first one is,
        
        
        
        National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance
        
        http://www.naafa.org/   I am not sure if I agree 100% with it.  It 
        is a starting point for resources.  The NAAFA web site also gives people 
        something to think about. 
        
        This next one seems 
        to have some good resources.  I saw some good clothing companies.  I 
        even saw an ad for a lingerie (seat cover) shop.  This web site had a 
        page with a list of good books to read on this subject. 
        
        Size Wise 
        
        http://www.sizewise.com/ 
        
        I think of “fat 
        acceptance” like this, “What do I do until I loose the weight?”.  And 
        then, “What if I never lose weight?”.  “My size does not 
        necessarily make me ‘unhealthy’”!  “Why are you, Mr. Business Owner, 
        trying so hard to get rich off my ability or inability to loose 
        weight”?  “I can be “healthy” and “beautiful” no matter what size 
        I am”!!  “I have to accept myself, whether or not I loose weight.  I 
        have to love myself now.  I can work at losing weight if I so choose.  I 
        have to be positive ‘in the mean time’.  I can’t wait until I get thin 
        to love myself.  I might not ever make it to ‘when I get thin’”.  
        
        
         
        
        Now here is an 
        example of the interesting things I run across as far as British foods.  
        I get a magazine called,
        
        Country Living.  (The British Edition) 
        
        www.countryliving.co.uk They always have a food section where they 
        give recipes.  Then, they also go to a part of the U.K. and tell about 
        the foods and attractions there.  In the last few months they have been 
        doing a series called, “The A-Z of British Food”. (That would be 
        pronounced “Aye to Zed”.)  In the March 2002 issue, they show “sheep’s 
        milk”.  There is a company that sells milk from sheep in Herefordshire. 
        
        Eskley Sheep Milk.
        
        http://www.sheepmilk.co.uk/   It looks yummy in the magazine photo 
        even though it is pasteurized!  (I also found out about the “Campaign 
        for Real Food” in Country Living also.)
        
        Ok, I 
        don't have a section on Fluoride... 
        I should stick some things on here dealing with that.  
        
        
        
        http://pmeiers.bei.t-online.de/index.htm History of Fluorine, 
        Fluoride, and Fluoridation
        
        Some 
        Articles/Sites "for and against" Health Freedom 
        (for the sake of argument) See the page, 
        "Interesting Threads of Thought" for more links in this section.  
        This list has links the other one doesn't.  And the other list has 
        links this one doesn't.  The other list has more links.
        
        
        
        http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hfreedom.html From 
        Quack Watch.org if this should not work for you search for "Health 
        Freedom" on their main site.
        
        
        http://www.quackpotwatch.org/ 
        Quack Pot Watch
        
        
        http://www.ncahf.org/ The National Council Against Health Fraud 
        (Very much against health freedom!)
        
        
        
        http://www.campaignfortruth.com/  Campaign For Truth In 
        Medicine
        
        
        
        http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/index1.htm  Sick of Doctors 
        .com 
        This is an  article I do not agree with!!  But I hope it works for you, 
        it is interesting even though it makes the blood boil.
        
        http://www.mbnglobal.com/MBN_Money_Finance/subHMWatchHMF.htm Health 
        Misinformation  What "Freedom of Choice" Really Means Copyright 
        1996, John H. Renner, M.D.
This is another,  article I do not 
        agree with. 
        
        http://www.childhealthinfo.com/alternative-medicine.htm The Child 
        Health Information Center: ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE (See also HEALTH FRAUD)
        
        http://www.apma.net/  American 
        Association for Health Freedom
        http://www.afcm.org/ 
        Americans for Free Choice in Medicine                                      
        Promotes a philosophy of individual rights, personal 
        responsibility and free market economics in the health care industry.
        
         
        
        Don’t know about 
        this website.  It seems ok, but needs a closer inspection. 
        
        Institute for Health Freedom.
        
        http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/
        
         
        
        The
        
        National Health Federation seems to be in the same vein as the one 
        above. 
        
        http://www.thenhf.com/ 
        
        They “work to 
        protect individuals right to choose to consume healthy food, take 
        supplements and use alternative therapies without government 
        restrictions”.  I can agree with that!  (To a point.)  I think people 
        ought to be allowed to make informed choices about their health care!! 
        But because not everyone is "informed" or "instructed" in the "right" 
        way to use alternative therapies, then there should be a minimum of 
        regulations.  You have to keep the people who are not instructed 
        from hurting themselves.  Otherwise "they" will ban it all because 
        it is "dangerous".  
        
        http://www.iahf.com/ 
        International Advocates for Health Freedom
        
        http://www.acsh.org/ 
        American Council on Science and Health
        
        I finally found this one after two? hours of 
        searching.  I couldn't remember what it was called! This is very 
        frightening stuff!!  
        http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/ CHILDREN'S HEALTHCARE IS A LEGAL 
        DUTY INC.
        C.H.I.L.D. "Fighting Religion-related Neglect and Abuse of Children"
        
         
        
        
        http://www.accessexcellence.org/
        Access Excellence @ The National Health Museum
        
         
        
        
        http://www.cspinet.org/
        Center for Science in the Public Interest (I don't agree with 
        their dietary advice.)
        
        
        
        
        http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/cspi.html 
        From The Weston A. Price Website, "The Tragic Legacy 
        of Center for Science in the Public Interest
        
        
        http://www.activistcash.com/ 
        ActivistCash.com, a project of the Center for Consumer Freedom, provides 
        the public and media with in-depth profiles of anti-consumer activist 
        groups, along with information about the sources of their exorbitant 
        funding. 
        http://www.consumerfreedom.com/ Website of the 
        Center for Consumer Freedom   (Are these two run by industry?  
        If you look at the second one, it has an ad for an anti alcohol 
        prohibition web site.  They don't think that soda pop in schools is 
        bad etc.)
        
        
        
        http://www.undueinfluence.com/ 
        Undue Influence--TRACKING THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT'S MONEY, POWER, AND 
        HARM Using capitalist investments to destroy capitalist society